Boys and Their Beer

Found this on Hamo‘s blog.
Loved it, laughed and laughed!

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25 thoughts on “Boys and Their Beer

  1. Question: “What does the Bible say about drinking alcohol / wine? Is it a sin for a Christian to drink alcohol / wine?”

    Answer: Several verses encourage people to stay away from alcohol (Leviticus 10:9; Numbers 6:3; Deuteronomy 14:26; 29:6; Judges 13:4,7,14; 1 Samuel 1:15; Proverbs 20:1; 31:4,6; Isaiah 5:11,22; 24:9; 28:7; 29:9; 56:12; Micah 2:11; Luke 1:15). However, Scripture does not necessarily forbid a Christian from drinking beer, wine, or any other drink containing alcohol. Christians are commanded to avoid drunkenness (Ephesians 5:18). The Bible condemns drunkenness and its effects (Proverbs 23:29-35). Christians are also commanded to not allow their bodies to be “mastered” by anything (1 Corinthians 6:12; 2 Peter 2:19). Scripture also forbids a Christian from doing anything that might offend other Christians or might encourage them to sin against their conscience (1 Corinthians 8:9-13). In light of these principles, it would be extremely difficult for any Christian to say they are drinking alcohol to the glory of God (1 Corinthians 10:31).

    Jesus changed water into wine. It even seems that Jesus likely drank wine on occasion (John 2:1-11; Matthew 26:29). In New Testament times, the water was not very clean. Without modern sanitation efforts, the water was filled with bacteria, viruses, and all kinds of contaminants. The same is true in most third-world countries today. As a result, people often drank wine (or grape juice) because it was far less likely to be contaminated. In 1 Timothy 5:23, Paul was instructing Timothy to stop drinking the water (which was probably causing his stomach problems) and instead drink wine. The Greek word for wine in the Bible is the most basic everyday word for wine. In that day, wine was fermented, but not to the degree it is today. It is incorrect to say that it was grape juice, but it is also incorrect to say that it was the same thing as the wine we use today. Again, Scripture does not necessarily forbid Christians from drinking beer, wine, or any other drink containing alcohol. Alcohol is not, in and of itself, tainted by sin. It is, rather, drunkenness and addiction to alcohol that a Christian must absolutely refrain from (Ephesians 5:18; 1 Corinthians 6:12). There are principles in the Bible, however, that make it extremely difficult to argue that a Christian drinking alcohol in any quantity is pleasing to God.
    Recommended Resource: Moral Choices by Scott Rae.

  2. Beer Church in Iraq
    Michael is a Beer Church Minister currently working in one of our most dangerous outposts — Mosul, Iraq. He’s with the 1st Brigade, 25th Infantry Division. The Army’s second Stryker Brigade. When we asked Michael if he intended to weas the Beer Church T-shirt that we sent him, he said, “Will I wear it over here? I would make a point to wear it over here. I mean, what’s the Army going to do to me? Send me to Iraq?”

    Godspeed Michael! check out http://www.beerchurch.com

  3. So what is Beer Church?

    Beer Church is as much an idea as it is an organization. It is based on our philosophy that people are basically good and want to help make the world a better place. The trick is to provide a way for them to do that. People like to drink beer, socialize and generally have a good time. In our human society, beer is a conduit, or catalyst, for making that happen. Find the people where they are. Have a party that benefits something worthy. As a unified association of beer drinkers our potential to affect positive social change is enormous. Be kind and giving, love one another, care about one another, and help one another. Use beer as a way to do those things. That’s what Beer Church wants to do. (check out our past Beer Church Charity Events)

  4. beer church? what the hell…are you guys on crack?
    what planet are you guys from. read the word of god our father. hello …are you listening “beer jerk”???

  5. ssion Statement

    Charity – We intend to expose Beer enthusiasts to, and organize them for the benefit of, various charitable, civic and compassionate causes, offering our members the opportunity to contribute collectively or individually. Although we are primarily a local organization in the Seattle, WA area, we attract the attention of beer enthusiasts around the world with our Web site. We intend to provide an example of the good things that can be done. We believe that beer’s worldwide popularity can and should be used to band people together for the benefit of society as a whole.

    Civic Responsibility – We believe in promoting responsible fun. Beer should be part of a recipe for positive social activity, but is too often used as part of a recipe for disaster. We urge everyone to be personally responsible all of the time. Anything else is disrespectful of yourself and your community.

    The Web Site – It is the goal of Beer Church to provide a fun, informative and useful Web site for persons all around the globe who are interested in and passionate about beer. The Web site is an evolving expression of our membership’s needs and wishes. All suggestions will be welcomed and sincerely considered so that we may better serve the Beer enthusiasts of the world.

  6. Why have holiness and Pentecostal churches advocated abstinence concerning the use of alcohol, tobacco, and narcotics (drugs)? Why not allow moderation?

    First Corinthians 6:19,20 has historically been held in high regard by holiness and Pentecostal Christians. “Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your body.” This and other passages warning against drunkenness have been considered sufficient reason for advocating complete abstinence from the use of alcohol, tobacco, or narcotics. Not only is the human body the temple of the Holy Spirit, which is not to be defiled; but there are other reasons for complete abstinence: (1) contemporary society is plagued with the destructive consequences of these three addictive substances and (2)even moderate use of the substances, especially alcohol and drugs, leads too often to destructive addictive habits.

    Alcohol. The Scriptures speak often of the destructive power of alcohol. Noah’s drunkenness brought shame to his family (Gen. 9:20-27). Lot’s drunkenness resulted in an incestuous relationship with his two daughters (Gen. 19:30-38). An inebriated Xerxes sought to humiliate Queen Vashti publicly (Est. 1:9-22). The consumption of alcohol impairs judgment, inflames passions, and invites violence (Lev. 10:8-11; Prov. 20:1, 23:29-35, 31:4,5).

    Alcoholism and the depression associated with it often leads to a breakdown of moral inhibitions, indiscreet or violent behavior, or loss of consciousness (drunkenness). Long-term drinking can terminally damage liver, pancreas, brain, or heart. Binge drinking on university campuses has caused instant death. It is estimated there are 14 million problem drinkers in the United States. Half of the fatal automobile accidents are caused by alcohol-impaired drivers. The annual cost of alcohol-related accidents, illness, violent crime, and loss of work time is estimated to exceed 100 billion dollars.

    Illegal Drugs. Though drug use is not specifically mentioned in the Bible, its impact on the drug user and on society far exceeds the evil results of alcohol abuse. The addictive nature of certain drugs is so powerful that a single episode can hook an individual for life. Furthermore, the irreversible physical damage to one’s organs and mental capacities makes drugs extremely dangerous. The greatest danger is the all-consuming control of one’s life, constantly interrupting one’s focus on work and destroying personal relationships and spiritual well-being. Beyond the personal toll of drug addiction is the disastrous burden placed on families and society.

    Alcohol and illegal drug use are well documented factors in domestic violence, road and work rage, child abuse, suicide, and a variety of other socially destructive behaviors. Alcoholism and drug addiction present a national crisis threatening to destroy the fabric of our society.

    Tobacco. While smoking and chewing tobacco does not impair one’s judgment nor carry many of the relational side effects of alcohol and illegal drugs, tobacco has now proved to be a primary health concern. Yet young people year after year are becoming hooked on the habit through effective ad campaigns that deceptively associate smoking with maturity and popularity.

    For many years the surgeon general of the United States has warned society of the dangers of smoking, even to the point of forcing tobacco companies to place the warning on their products. But not until the casualties of mouth and lung cancer and addiction to tobacco began to increase did people take the warning seriously. When it became evident that non-smokers were becoming victims of diseases caused by inhaling second-hand tobacco smoke, then society began mounting major opposition to the use of tobacco. While medical studies in recent years have shown conclusively that smoking is the leading cause of lung cancer, the church has opposed the use of tobacco because it is a habit that is harmful to a Christian’s testimony as well as to a Christian’s body, which is the temple of the Holy Spirit.

    With these realities about alcohol, tobacco, and drug use, the argument for abstinence is well established. The Christian is called to a higher standard of self-control and self-denial concerning those things not beneficial to his physical and spiritual well being. To argue for any level of “moderate use” of alcohol, narcotics, or tobacco is to be insensitive to the weight of Scripture and the present perils of our society. Christians realize the pressing need for a pure testimony before our world. As the apostle Paul said, “I urge you . . . in view of God’s mercy, to offer your bodies as living sacrifices, holy and pleasing to God—this is your spiritual act of worship. Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God’s will is—his good, pleasing and perfect will” (Romans 12:1,2).

    CONCERNS:

    The use of alcohol, narcotics, and tobacco mentioned above exact a heavy toll, not only on the addicted person, but also on all of society. Drug abuse can make an addict incapable of being a productive individual in the larger society, thus increasing the financial burden on the rest of society. Medical treatment for injuries and illnesses caused by the addictions further consumes resources that could be put to much better use. And as drug abuse often leads to criminal activity, society pays a double cost in added insurance and law enforcement costs. We call upon all of society to fight these addictive substances used by Satan to keep individuals in bondage to his power over their lives.

  7. An Irishman in a wheelchair enters a pub one afternoon and asked the bartender for a pint of stout. The Irishman looked across the pub and asked,” Is that Jesus sitting over there?” The bartender nodded “yes,” so the Irishmen told her to give Jesus a pint on him.

    The next patron to come into the pub was an Englishman with a hunched back. He shuffled over to a booth, painfully sat down, and asked the waitress for a pint of stout. He also glanced across the pub and asked, “Is that Jesus over there?” The waitress nodded, so the Englishman said to give Jesus a pint, “My treat.”

    Third patron to come into the pub was a redneck on crutches. He hobbled over to a booth, sat down and hollered, “Hey there, sweet thang. How’s about getting’ me a cold mug of Bud!” He, too, looked across the pub and asked, “Is that God’s boy over there?”
    The waitress once more nodded, so the redneck said to give Jesus a mug of cold Bud, “On my bill.”

    As Jesus got up to leave, he passed by the Irishman, touched him and said, “For your kindness, you are healed.” The Irishman felt the strength come back into his legs, got up, and danced an Irish dance out the door.

    Jesus also passed by the Englishman, touched him and said, “For your kindness, you are healed.” The Englishman felt his back straightening up, and he raised his hands, praised the Lord and did a series of English back flips out the door.

    Then Jesus walked toward the redneck. The Redneck jumped up and yelled, “Don’t touch me… I’m drawin disability!”

  8. is that just one person talking to themselves or what?
    ……………………………………………………………..
    ………..sorry for the long pause, was taking a swing of my Little Creatures Pale Ale. Certainly no throat burning going on there, just refreshing beery goodness.

  9. Strooth! Been away from the blog responses for a few days and look what I get upon my return a man who seems to me to be having a giant monologue with himself. I may be wrong but it sure looks like that. Maybe we could start on dancing or sport on Sundays next..or movies, yeah Christians who watch movies are surly going straight to the pit! I used to collect stamps…does anyone have any pohibitions on that?
    So much for my freedom in Christ, it just went down the poo hole.
    Tried that Pure Blonde on the weekend, nice beer, low carb (more Christian)

  10. I think it depends what’s on the stamps Vaws….

    …I think the best relationship building times, and the most times God’s come up in conversation with my non-Christian mates is while having a beer with them at the local after work.

  11. A man … maybe Anon is a woman who runs a beer church, and is anti-beer…and pro – beer, it could be a woman…I’m ok with women drinking beer and not drinking beer!

  12. What the !!??
    You’ve all lost it !
    That was soooo funny. Who IS that guy?? Anonomous, you’ve gotta try a cold amber one day son. I am living proof it wont kill ya, nor will ya burn in hell for it. I’m still talking to God, He’s still blessing me (and the mates) and I’m fine all round. Now for that beer !

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